Carrick Bend adapted as end of line loop?

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@geminijim post:1

Hello everyone, glad to finally be joining this forum.

I haven’t seen this anywhere else, but by the same logic of the Zeppelin bend → Zeppelin loop, I have adapted the Carrick bend (ends opposed) as a loop by laying the working end of the first overhand loop back over the loop parallel to the standing part, then working it under-over-under-over. Take out the slack and pull the standing part and opposite leg to collapse the knot. It seems to be quite secure, and I would expect it to be comparable to the bend in strength and security. It is easier (for me) than the Zeppelin loop because it is basically tied just like the bend. It also seems to have an advantage over the Zeppelin loop and double dragon in that the working end tends to lie inside the loop parallel to the leg, like in the bowline, rather than sticking out at a right angle.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone has any experience with this loop, and what its disadvantages might be.

Thanks,
Jim

Go to your local hardware store and pick up some slick polypropylene to test the loop via slack repetitive shaking. This loop is one of the first tied by people who are trying bends as a loop. However the (Double) Carrick bend form carries itself loosely, which may be the reason for its mediocre security. It fared better in the natural fiber ropes back when manila fiber was king.

Tied as a loop, more problems occur. If you alternately pull legs to simulate swinging or rotation some unsettling things can occur. You may also want to try ring loading the loop in polypropylene, so that you make the loop act as if something is trying to expand it. You may be unhappy with the results.