# EBSB tied as 1034.5 vs 1010

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**Category:** Practical Knots\
**Created:** [17 December 2025 19:19 UTC](https://discourse.igkt.net/t/ebsb-tied-as-1034-5-vs-1010/9996 "2025-12-17T19:19:48Z")\
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**Post date:** [23 December 2025 00:55 UTC](https://discourse.igkt.net/t/ebsb-tied-as-1034-5-vs-1010/9996/10 "2025-12-23T00:55:28Z")

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Hello again ‘altclimb’.

> _So interestingly, I was debating on now to tie the EBSB as a 1034.5_

This depends on how you choose to define Ashley #1034 1/2.

Strictly and technically speaking, you actually aren’t beginning from the baseline of Ashley #1034 1/2 (tail outside simple Bowline).

We’re getting into potentially dangerous territory here - because I am disagreeing with your underlying premise. This risks causing offense and there are some who might view technical disagreements as causing _harm_ (ie words can cause harm).

So I might leave it there - PM me to discuss privately.

PS - Be careful with other variants offered in this topic thread- not all will be ‘inherently secure’. It appears that you are a **climber** (like I am) - we need knots that are secure and stable (eg absolutely resistant to slack shaking and cyclic loading profiles, etc). Not everyone on this [IGKT](https://discourse.igkt.net/t/igkt-international-guild-of-knot-tyers/9985) forum uses knots in **life critical applications** - where death is a real possibility if a knot works loose.

_NOTE_: This is not to slander or offend those who contribute their ideas - rather, its simply pointing out that not everyone uses knots in the same way that you and I do… eg My life depends on me making correct choices and decisions in applying knots within their ‘flight envelope’ (per the ‘flight ‘envelope’ of an aircraft - exceeding it means inflight breakup, and death).

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