# From low level TIB cores to inherently secure bowlines

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**Category:** Knotting Concepts & Explorations\
**Created:** [4 February 2025 15:02 UTC](https://discourse.igkt.net/t/from-low-level-tib-cores-to-inherently-secure-bowlines/7764 "2025-02-04T15:02:57Z")\
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**Post date:** [17 October 2026 20:33 UTC](https://discourse.igkt.net/t/from-low-level-tib-cores-to-inherently-secure-bowlines/7764/20 "2026-10-17T20:33:51Z")

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> [@Dan\_Lehman](#):
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> Now, alas, you did NOT understand how to tie  
> LEE'S LINK BWL and thus have gone wrong in  
> all of your shown knots (loadings of the Tangle).

I couldn't help but smile loudly at this remark 🙂

Dan needs to learn how to use a camera - or a cell phone with camera.

Using written words to describe a knot is convoluted.

> [@Dan\_Lehman](#):
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> CROSS in the Tangle center --the upper strand  
> turns clockwise around the other and the lower  
> eye leg, and makes the broad collar;  
> while the other/lower strand crosses over the first  
> and turns anti-clockwise in making L'sLink Bwl  
> S.Part, flowing into the lower, and for LL'sB OELeg

Tangle center: Knot core? There is no 'tangle' - its has a specific geometric form.

Upper strand: Which way is up? And therefore, which way is 'down'?

Clockwise: Need a reference frame to define clockwise and anti clockwise

Lower: Which way is down?

Crosses over the first: Need to define 'up' and 'down' via some reference frame. Also, "over the first" which rope segment is 'first' in contrast to 'second' or 'third' - and then go 'over' it (assuming there is a defined up/down reference frame).

Curious: I always imagine an astronaut circling in orbit around the Earth. Using words as instructions to tie a knot, how would you define 'up', 'down', 'left', 'right', 'over', and 'under'?

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I admire Mr 'Kost\_greg's patience 🙂

I found some of my own instructions... (Warning, Australian humour)

1. tie a knot

2. pick up cell phone

3. point cell phone toward knot

4. take photo

5. upload to this [IGKT](https://discourse.igkt.net/t/igkt-international-guild-of-knot-tyers/9985) website

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