# How much redressing makes a new knot?

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**Created:** [12 May 2015 10:41 UTC](https://discourse.igkt.net/t/how-much-redressing-makes-a-new-knot/5652 "2015-05-12T10:41:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dan\_Lehman](https://discourse.igkt.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Dan\_Lehman](https://discourse.igkt.net/u/Dan_Lehman)\
**Post date:** [28 May 2015 00:40 UTC](https://discourse.igkt.net/t/how-much-redressing-makes-a-new-knot/5652/50 "2015-05-28T00:40:44Z")

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> [@Tex post:49](#):
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> I agree that this knot is ultimately secure anyway you tie it.  
> This is more than a secure knot. It’s a secure topology and  
> THAT is largely what has made the name of the ABL well known.

Oh, now you worry me : what made the name popular  
is more myth and fancy, IMO. And as I further think about  
the “partially capsizing” abseil-ropes-joiner I had, IIRC it  
was supposedly also of a “secure topology” (a brain-warping  
term) --that of Ashley’s #1452 I think (!). Not sure  
if I can find the thread here (or knot sketches within my  
reach at _my_ “here”). And, for reference knot-#s out of  
[u][ABoK](https://discourse.igkt.net/t/9845), “lanyard knot” #781 or thereabouts is the  
pre-capsized version, to be loaded making it an “offset”  
knot like the infamous “EDK” (offset water knot)  
–prior to possible capsizing, that is!  
.:. Be careful when you count your chickens! :o 😉

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