Correct, it’s NOT the same Jug Sling. I need access to at least one end or the bight loop in order to untie the Jug Sling in the original post.
I could not find a really clear YouTube video for the Asher Bottle Sling, so here’s mine:
Thank you for the video. Here’s another video for the Asher Jug Sling:
Thanks!
That makes it clear. Its basically a cow hitch and a bull hitch.
For the bottle sling, I found this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18jr4UY0CKs&feature=related
He explains and demonstrates it very well.
But that’s a completely different knot!!
Which is the real Asher bottle sling??
I have no idea.
I don’t even know anymore where I learned the Asher sling a couple of years ago. If mine, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LXKpnIZ94o, is wrong, I must have just assumed that it was meant to be finished with a bull hitch. Which is more secure than the knot you cited. Too secure? I have used it quite a bit and don’t find it onerous to untie. But the knot finished with a mere twist is easier to untie, but would seem to be much more prone to shaking loose.
Does someone have a copy of Asher’s book?
okay… here’s the youtube vid of the method I just kinda figured out on how to tie the jug sling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtK2XTHhvg8
Forgive me if it’s not the best video, it was done with my roomie holding the camera phone.
I’m not stupid enough to think it’s the best way to do it. I will say that the method does open some doors. For instance, I have a little pour bottle with a handle and a stopper on it. Using the technique shown, I can actually use the bight on the jug sling knot around the neck of the bottle inside the handle, or just around the handle itself, and then the jug sling knot goes around the stopper itself. This ties the stopper to the bottle in a fashion that it can be opened, but I don’t have to put the stopper down anywhere.
You’re right. They are different. For whatever reason, I was tying them the same. As long as your knot doesn’t jam, then it’s not too secure. There’s no sense in being unduly stressed out when using a knot to hang a bottle of whatever.
It’s interesting how everybody learns differently. I agree that your method provides more options for tying things. I’d call that a “versatile method”. It’s not a quick and easy method for me, but I suppose one could become fast with that method with practice. Do you need to lay the rope on a table, or was that just for the camera?
That was just for the camera. I’ve tied it a few times by hand already, including once around a bottle and it’s stopper. I’ll see if I can use the webcam to show doing it by hand.
Yeah, we all learn differently, for me, the diagrams folks posted are just way too complicated for me.
The funny thing is, This morning before I got up, I noticed how, the jug sling knot looks like someone took a 4bight-3lead turks head and just made the middle leads on one side extend out quite a bit, and never tucked the end into the knot… then just after I posted my video, I saw another video where the creator pointed out about the same thing, noting that from the side, it looked like a turk’s head knot.