# Lineman's Rider or Butterfly knot

**URL:** <https://discourse.igkt.net/t/linemans-rider-or-butterfly-knot/3357>\
**Category:** Practical Knots\
**Created:** [6 July 2009 19:26 UTC](https://discourse.igkt.net/t/linemans-rider-or-butterfly-knot/3357 "2009-07-06T19:26:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dan\_Lehman](https://discourse.igkt.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Dan\_Lehman](https://discourse.igkt.net/u/Dan_Lehman)\
**Post date:** [17 August 2026 02:27 UTC](https://discourse.igkt.net/t/linemans-rider-or-butterfly-knot/3357/16 "2026-08-17T02:27:24Z")

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> [@agent\_smith](#):
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> Hopefully Bob is looking down and smiling

We all should be dismayed that Bob's claim of JMDrew  
**1931** being listed in [ABoK](https://discourse.igkt.net/t/9845) is wrong but went uncorrected ::  
indeed, it is a striking omission which I've elsewhere remarked  
at (in regard to the 1931 _Handicraft_ chapter written by Drew  
containing Ashley's beloved knot is NOT hinted at as being  
Drew's work!!).  
Bob must've oops for **1936** , somehow!  
(I.e., yes, the 1931 work is listed by Ashely,  
but without a hint that (a) it has a full chapter  
on knots (as beyond merely things related to  
rope & cordage) and (b) JMDrew wrote it,  
AND ... (c) that it presents Ashley's "Constrictor"  
(as the NSE version of the Strangle).

--dl\*  
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