# Open Helix loop

**URL:** https://discourse.igkt.net/t/open-helix-loop/5811
**Category:** General Discussion
**Created:** [26 August 2015 12:05 UTC](https://discourse.igkt.net/t/open-helix-loop/5811 "2015-08-26T12:05:03Z")
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### Author: ![xarax](https://discourse.igkt.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/43a26b/32.png) [@xarax](https://discourse.igkt.net/u/xarax)
#### Post date: [29 August 2015 06:56 UTC](https://discourse.igkt.net/t/open-helix-loop/5811/7 "2015-08-29T06:56:01Z")

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Regarding the “open helical” nipping structure tied on the Standing Part before the eye, we had discussed about the term and the issue about if such structure should characterizes a “bowline” ( or not ), back at Jan. 2012. At the end of the day, it all comes to d e f i n i t i o n s :

> [@xarax post:231](#):
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> According to my definition,
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> this loop should be described as a bowline-like loop… It has a nipping structure on the standing part before the tip of the loop, and, although this nipping structure is nothing more than a wide open helical nipping “loop” (?), nobody can deny that it nips the tail nevertheless - and it nips it in a most effective way !

> [@Dan\_Lehman post:232](#):
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> Find a better definition!
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> This knot too directly is based upon a helix rather than a loop  
> –acknowledging that the distinction between them comes in some arbitrary measure (as we have no perfect circle/loop).  
> (It’s an old acquaintance from my seeking to create a gradual curvature in the SPart.)

[http://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=3233.msg21697#msg21697](http://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=3233.msg21697#msg21697)  
[http://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=3020.msg21688#msg21688](http://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=3020.msg21688#msg21688)

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