# Possble New Knot/Bend

**URL:** <https://discourse.igkt.net/t/possble-new-knot-bend/4654>\
**Category:** New Knot Investigations\
**Created:** [20 December 2012 21:57 UTC](https://discourse.igkt.net/t/possble-new-knot-bend/4654 "2012-12-20T21:57:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dan\_Lehman](https://discourse.igkt.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Dan\_Lehman](https://discourse.igkt.net/u/Dan_Lehman)\
**Post date:** [12 January 2013 21:25 UTC](https://discourse.igkt.net/t/possble-new-knot-bend/4654/34 "2013-01-12T21:25:45Z")

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> [@Matt53 post:26](#):
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> Sorry for the delayed response.
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> > [But, no, the "reverse" side is NOT the same --tie [i]SmitHunter's bend[/i] and see how it differs (using differently colored ropes, that is!).]
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> The knot originally presented and the [i]SmitHunter's bend[/i] (#1425a) are the same on the 'reverse' side. Depending on how it is tied, one can produce enantiomeric (mirror image) forms but these are alternate representations of the same form. This knot differs from the Hunters' bend (#1425a) on the 'obverse' side in that the parallel strands ([i]Hunter's bend[/i]) are wrapped around each other (forming an overhand knot).

Let me reiterate, and I hope that given this you  
DO tie them with colored ropes and so see the  
truth --to be clear, I’m referring to what was shown  
as 08 Final configuration reverse side (enlargement).JPG .  
SmitHunter’s bend is NOT this (although similar).  
The position of the straight-in parts of the SParts is  
reversed (re upper/lower, in the image).

Now, for some folks it’s possible that their reference  
for what is SmitHunter’s bend is wrong, in showing  
what is better called a “false zeppelin bend” ; but you  
have [ABOK](https://discourse.igkt.net/t/9845) which has the former correctly drawn.  
In the correct knot, the overhands _interlock_ with  
their SParts’ turns, each into the other, unlike the zeppelin.

> You bring up a good point- the [i]falsely tied Hunter's bend[/i] 'becomes' [i]ABOK #1425[/i] when the free ends and the standing ends are reversed.

Matt53, again, please note the subtleties here --this assertion  
is wrong, as Luca indicates (slightly) in reply. The former  
knot doesn’t interlock overhands no matter how one  
loads the ends (in reverse, normally) --so it cannot be  
the same as the latter knot, which is so interlocked.

# –dl\*

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