yes pardon my previous pic not very clear,
i think i have done the white arrow thing you described,
here he is again, the poor bastard!,
still sturdy, though?
with some weight on it, the front folds inward and downward,
such that the aster is on the outside.
(looks tidy with the end pulled right through (not pictured)).
even though i have bonk-tyed it - sorry Andreas ! - its form and balance seem to be maintained?,
and with a decorative dab
Thank you Alana, much more clear visual now, i see that you have followed a quite different strategy to complete your design, with interpretable, in-between, tying stages.
So, instead of pushing a bight through a loop, you have done the exact opposite, feeding the nipping loop, up through a bight, whose (bight) tail is lying inside the eye and under the out-going, eye leg continuation (first image).
Next, you have actually folded the nipping loop over these two lines (out-going eyeleg, tail), then pulling those lines up through the nipping loop, and passing the final bight under the lines, in marlin spike fashion (second image).
still sturdy, though?
However, the poor bastard is a great idea, maybe in my view, with some modification at the insertion angle of the returning line.
Of course, the exploding property is still in force.
This is an example, following from my previous reply, about the insertion angle of the returning line, using Alana’s method, shown in her clapp_awk project.
Pass the returning line over the nipping loop and under SP as shown in first image.
Fold the nipping loop over the two lines (out-going, returning line) and pull the two lines up through the nipping loop in marlin spike fashion, as shown in second image.
Form a bight with the tail and lock it under the two lines.
Is the profile of third and fourth image identifiable?
Tip : Exploded or not the knot is tiable in the bight (TIB).
Answer : “Tugboat version of Scott’s locked bowline”
Congratulations Kostas. Great use of Alanas scouting )
I have a guess this is a winner as a posteye tie/untie. And it’s a solution for my starting idea for nr2. : to construct a secure “exploding” loop.
I will practise tying and get back.
Any comments for this knot as a harness tie in anyone?
Below a real scott lock ..but pseudo version of “bight through the nipping loop”. Which now fits here )
Secure indeed but slick only as a reverse: a nipping loop through a bight (tail) structure.
.. good tie in?! ..It’s every checking partners dream )
About the tugboat Scott’s locked variation, yes it is very secure with a super easy tying method, but as i mentioned previously, i’m not so sure about its ease of untying, even with loads, so much as 6 or 7 times X bodyweight.
You see, it’s like loading Scott’s knot from its most complex component, the returning structure, adding 50% additional strain, which at some point will definitely induce jamming.
When i see a profile like your SymmetricalScott, with so neatly organised, very easily inspected components, i usually have great expectations about its functionality.
The same stands for the knot at reply#16, which is a combination of two good techniques in nipping loop stabilization, EBSB, and simple lock.
I’m not sure about the use of the bight collar encircling the returning line, but i don’t feel like fiddling with it and ruin the symmetry of the knot.
The only thing that concerns me, is the squeezing conditions inside the nipping loop, caused by the end bound (or myrtle) turns as they hold very tight the nipping loop’s crossing point.
Not exactly the best part of the knot to interact with, after heavy loading, compared to a U fold is it?
Hopefully, the pliability of a bowline-like loop is not being compromised in such a good and very compact knot.
Excellent, way of synthesizing the components!
Good save, really like lees’ adjustable one. ) thanks
And yes tugboat scott jams up early, I got too excited too quickly..
There are two more knots that belong here as we’re at it, pushing bights over the cross of the nipping loop to create more “Exploding loops”
Actually these two versions are the result of pushing a nipping loop over a nipping loop…
Nr 3 should be compared with Nr 2 I guess.
Nr 4. Not sure this is stable under load. But looks good and ties and opens really well.
Start like an alpine butterly, withouth pushing the bight through
Hi Andreas, good work. Nice creation on reply on #25 and #26. I think Master Xarax has tied it before.
I am just too busy myself, and don’t have time to search for the links.
Anyway, you are walking on the right path.
Have time, I will respond to your EBSB +u turn and (real scott lock ..but pseudo version of “bight through the nipping loop”. Which now fits here )
I have many quick releases and adjustable loops and will look for them and share them here.
alanlee
Great. Will be good to have your and Xarax’ knots back in public
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Hi Andreas, I am wrong, Xarax loop is slightly difference form your.
Also I found Scout's fig.9 adjustable loop very good too.
This picture is taking by Xarax.
I have this Overhand knot base loop, and can't find the related loops,
or may be I forgot to tie these two versions.
I made some colors to it, maybe it is a little more easy to see the structure.
Hi Knutern, Thanks for your participation. Awesome, very happy to see you share this beautiful, nice and
clear, easy to follow and understand structure, it makes life easy.
After many years tying knots, still struggling with how to take good pictures.
I need to learn your new technic for sure.
Glad to hear this is helpful. This is just an easy fix using Gimp, manually drawing the colors into new layers (one per color) and set the blending mode to “darken only”. Not that much work, really.
What I really cannot figure out is if this figure-9 adjustable loop has any advantages over the figure-8 adjustable loop (I know I’ve seen the image somewhere, but google only shows a bunch of regular “figure-8 loops” when I search for “figure-8 adjustable loop”).