DL In some sense I agree but the point here is that the TH is not a chain hoist. If normal use gives 1.6 then hoisting gives 0.6. But if hoisting something with a rope is what you need, then the TH or similar will do it. If tossing a rope over a tree works, then tossing it over twice won’t work worse.
I’d calling tying a square knot as a bend dumb, but I’d call it a dumb use of a square knot. This is less physically different even than that example, and probably more useful to. It’s true though that’s it’s not best use of a TH.
@xarax
You managed to simultaneously blow off intelligent thought and without solicitation apparently also to needlessly insult religion in the same breath. That’s amusing in a couple of ways, but then the religious views you’ve expressed are also, well, intriguing.
I have never the intention to blame, as “intriguing” or otherwise, in any way, religious views of people ! If I have done it, I sincerely apologize to anybody who might have been offended. And I, myself, had NEVER expressed any religious “views” - only views of knots, on knots !
Those days I study the temple od Gobekli Tepe (1), which is a monumental, literally and metaphorically, structure, built 12.000 years ago ! ! ! .
“G?bekli Tepe is regarded as an archaeological discovery of the greatest importance since it could profoundly change the understanding of a crucial stage in the development of human society. "
As archaeologist / excavator Klaus Schmidt put it, " First came the temple, then the city .”
We have religious constructions even from the time humans were hunters… This is enough to respect religion - as the age of knotting is enough to respect knots !
( Unfortunately, Klaus Schmidt died one year ago… (2))
I said it was amusing, not that I was offended. I am not so easily offended. I’ll fully trust your word that you didn’t mean it to be offensive. By religion I was jokingly referring to your comments about life being some kind of video game or whatever it was. No war intended.
OK, sorry, end of the story.
Read about Gobekli Tepe. Amazing ! 7.000 years ( SEVEN THAOUSAND ) before Stonehenge…
50 ( FIFTY ) tons , 7 meters high columns ! Erected by hunter-gatherers… Possibly using ropes and knots !
It’s slightly bemusing (I think that rolls off less offensive than amusing, which is what I’m going for) to me to see people worrying too much about who gets credit for a knot. People have been tying knots for 7,000 years before stone hinge, (you can be certain if they did that, they also tied a knot or two at some point) and they didn’t have TV or smartphones, so what are you gonna do when you’re tired and bored after hunting all day and you’ve got nothing but sticks and ropes and rocks? What do all of us do? Pick up the best gadget we have and fiddle with it. I’m sure every knot (not enourmous tangle, but knot) there is to tie has been tied. Still we give credit for discovering things FOR the world. Cave dude should have carved a picture of his knot, but he probably wasn’t worried about getting it named after him.
Do not be sure about that… The number of simple knots ( that is, with few number of crossings ) is enormous, and if you include simple links ( two-rope knots ), the situation gets even worse. There were not so many people living in the planet before 1800, they had not so much free time, and, just as it happens today, I believe that, most of the time, they were tying the SAME knots, over and over again…
