Adjustable loop / guyline hitch

Happy New Year!

I had some correspondence with Dan Lehmann in 2004 about this knot and he was very helpful. He found one “accidental” appearance in one edition of a book, where it was drawn by mistake, it appears not to have been published. I thought I’d have a go at putting it here to see if anyone around the world can identify it or has used it.

TYPE OF KNOT - Adjustable hitch for tent guylines etc.

DESCRIPTION - This is effectively a double Clove Hitch (?) over the standing part forming a sliding knot which holds firm when stress is applied to the loop and standing part. It works very much like the various versions of the Taut-line Hitch.

METHOD OF TYING

  1. Tie a loose overhand knot with the leading end on top and facing right - Step 1
  2. Place the leading end over itself and the standing part - Step 2
  3. Loop the leading end round twice - Step 3
  4. Pass the leading end through the two loops - Step 4
  5. Work the knot neatly together - Step 5

See attached images. It would only allow me to attach 4, but I can provide more!

I look forward to any comments or information.

Brian


Step 2.jpg

Step 3.jpg

OK, here is a prior discovery of the Ezelius knot
--or some of them-- surfacing to a knot tyer.
For that matter, knot artist Windy Chien recently
used this "double clove hitch" --we might call it--
in some of her decorative knotting.

IMO, it's a pretty strong binder, lacking some of
the frictional interference that the Constrictor
has with its ends-crossing on tightening;
but then lacks the corresponding lock that
ends-crossing structure gives.

--dl*
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Did you get the copies of my emails? I had correspondence with you way back in 2004 about this very knot.

Yeah, 2 decades back!

Dan

I thought it might have had a name, but perhaps I shall have to think of one. I suppose it's just another adjustable hitch/loop. I thought at least maybe there would be a name for the basic knot, which is effectively a clove hitch with an extra turn; I call it a double clove hitch, following the naming of the double constrictor knot which is a constrictor knot with an extra turn. In fact my knot functions well just to attach a rope to a spar and seems more secure than a standard clove hitch.

Anyway, many thanks for your help in all this - it is much appreciated.

Brian

Dan Lehman dan_lehman@hotmail.com wrote:

Dear Brian,

Yes, I'm here! (Sorry, much is coming at me ... .)

Beyond what I have noted initially, that :

It is illustrated, slipped, and by accident, somewhat, in the
Budworth-Dalton book
I've not seen it elsewhere. (It's not terribly surprising, as most
knots books tend to copy others--mistakes and all--, alas.)-:

--dl*

Currently, I'm playing around with what might be
called an "Anchor Bend with Diagonal Tail-Tuck"
--#1692 & 1468 also, well, if loaded qua friction hitch
and as the ProhGrip/Blake's H. loads --call it "outcoil"
(per Stantley Barnes's terms). One might add another
turn around the object with this, but it can grip well
(and initially I loaded it INcoil, where it can work at
times/conditions).

--dl*
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Many thanks for your reply. I've had some difficulty getting a response from the IGKT on this topic; maybe I can get through to you. I have absolutely zero wish to claim ownership of, or that I "invented", the double clove hitch loop used as a tautline, adjustable hitch or jam hitch. As with any other knot , particularly a simple one like this, it is extremely likely to have been used numerous times over the centuries.

I was just very surprised to discover that the knot I had queried with you all those years ago in 2004 and which appeared to be unrecorded had recently been named the Ezelius Hitch/Loop, having apparently been "invented" the year after I also posted it here. If the said knots are not the same, then there has been a misunderstanding, but IGKT seem unwilling to confirm one way or another, or indeed respond to my emails on the subject.

My 2004 photos: