Better name for the 2 strand diamond knot?

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I was going to ask y’all for naming advice, and as I was preparing to do so, I realized the perfect name. So I no longer need advice, but since I made illustrative knots and took pictures and such, let’s share anyhoo?

Below is ABoK 1424, a two strand diamond knot, or the True-Lover’s Knot with Interlocked Crowns.

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It already seems to have plenty of names, what does the world need with another? Well, an ABoK number is not a name. The “2 strand diamond knot” is technically accurate, but some people call the Chinese button knot the “2 strand button knot”, although it’s a 2 strand version of the 4 strand diamond knot. :nerd_face: . Everyone and their dog want to lay claim to the True Lover’s Knot moniker.

I’m about to teach this knot to my current Chinese knotting class in a few weeks as a loose end ear finishing knot (I possibly have another naming question for the Forum for a different knot unless I settle on a name on my own for that one, too). The main features of this knot is that from one side the cords come into the knot parallel and together, while on the other side they come out separated and fanned out, so the pointy end points into the ear for a rounded shape and the flat end is away from the ear for a slender hanger.

The names I was thinking of were:

  • The ‘Y’ knot (fanned out on one side but together on the other)
  • The Delta knot (‘Δ’, Greek capital delta)
  • The 2 strand diamond knot (confusing because of the Chinese button knot problem and the shape being so strongly triangular vs diamonds)
  • The triangle knot (meh!)
  • The triangular connection knot

Why did it take me days to figure this out? Who knows! TCK is perfect, of course, because its tying method is very similar to the double connection knot. It serves a similar purpose, since the DCK is often used for completing loose end ears in Chinese knotting projects. Also, it’s triangular. Logic. :sweat_smile:

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I need to correct myself. Above is not ABoK 1424, it’s 781. 781 is interlocked overhands, and 1424 is interlocked half hitches with an extra crossing, so more akin to the snake sennit’s interlocked half hitches than the double connection knot’s interlocked overhands. So then for 1424, let’s try out a poll!

  • the snake head knot
  • the delta knot
  • the half-hitch triangle
  • the Y knot
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with the pictures now, it looks like a crossing knot?, so the name half-hitch could mean anything!, so ‘delta’ is more descriptive… i changed my vote…

but remember when we were discussing that shape that you called ‘triskele’ - that name would surely apply now! =)

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Hi KnotMe

In Roger E. Miles ‘s book Symmetric Bend How to join Two Lengths of Cord, the ABOK#1424 is also called Triangular Bend. It composes a Grief Knot and a Half Knot. While Grief’s Great Bend (my new bend) also composed a Grief Knot and a Half Knot (twisted in the other way).

ABOK#781 can capsize to Ashley’s Bend.

yChan

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I went and had a look at a few of your gdrive directories. Information overload! Do you have a direct link to your Grief’s Great Bend?

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Hi KnotMe

You may find Grief’s Great Bend in my knotting folder by the name OTGrief_sGreatBendop “My New Bends”

You may find ABOK#1424 in my knotting folder by the name OT#1424TriangularBend(A11)(1-7)op “My Other Tying Methods of Some Known Knots” :

Happy Knotting

yChan