can you identify these knots?

Hello everyone!

I am Russian and I need to translate names of some knots into English. As I’m a newbie in knot tying, I’m having real trouble with that. As you guys are all professional knot tyers here, you might be able to effortlessly identify these knots by pictures. Would you help me? Here is a picture of one knot, and if it’s not against the rules of this forum I’ll post more of them.

In Russian the knot is called “dagger knot”. It is equal to the knot #1450 in ABOK, but Ashley didn’t give a name to it. Does it have any name in English tradition?


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Hello little green bird,

I have seen this name used “Dagger” knot (bend) but if it is the true name? So many names that fit the same knots out there.

But we have an interesting thread that you may want to read about this bend and variations of it.
http://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=2694.0

SS

Thank you, SS369. I’ve read that topic yesterday, and it actually urged me to register here :slight_smile: Maybe I should post my picture in that topic, it might be interesting for them to know that the knot they were discussing has a traditional name in Russia.

Another knot I am interested in is the knot we call “Fisherman’s figure-8”. The same story with it: there is such a knot in ABOK (#301), but Ashley didn’t name it:

Hi lgb,

Welcome, and thank you for bringing us your knots.

Have you studied your ‘Fisherman’s figure-8’ when you work it. In slick braid, I find it simplifies itself quite markedly to become a variant of the Ossel hitch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossel_hitch, but it has no self locking functionality ( ideal if you want to be able to remove it) so with flogging, eventually the end worked its way out and hte knot failed.

Derek

The knot presented here is clearly not as intended
–i.p., it’s not the cited #301 of [u]ABOK.
Re the latter knot, I suggest trying a version in which
the tail makes a few wraps around the SPart before
its final tuck : this might give it some friction-grip
of the SPart and improve strength & security!?

–dl*

Derek,
thank you for your response, it really puzzled me :slight_smile: “Fisherman’s figure eight” does resemble the Ossel hitch, and I would never notice it without your help. However, I can’t call this knot an Ossel hitch, because I need to put it in the “Snelling knots” directory, and the Ossel hitch cannot be classified as a snelling knot, can it? These knots are different, unfortunately. But I can mention the Ossel hitch in the description. Thank you again!

Dan,
you’re right, your variant of the “dagger knot” is really stronger. But the first thing I need is to know its English name.

One more knot I need to identify. I failed to find it in ABOK. Maybe I just wasn’t looking carefully enough. In Russian it is called the “Deadeye knot”. Here is another picture of this knot from a famous Russian book on knots by L. N. Skryagin - this is where all my knots actually come from. http://www.skitalets.ru/books/knot_skryagin/Images/image238.gif


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This “Deadeye knot” appears to be closely related to the Rosendahl/Zeppelin bend. If this knot is tied with a long bight of line to form an eye, it seems to be secure and easy to untie.

It looks to be ABoK #582, a decorative knot that is sometimes called a Blimp Knot due to its relation to the Zeppelin Bend.

Roo, you are genious!! ABoK #582 is exactly what I need! Now I remember that I saw it in the book, but I didn’t recognize it, stupid me :slight_smile: Thank you so much! I’ll call this one the Blimp Knot then.

Here is another knot I failed to find in Ashley’s book. In Russian it is called “the academic knot”. It’s actually a Surgeon’s knot, but with an extra twist. Any thoughts about this one? :slight_smile: