Igkt-FRANCE ( yes we exist, and are trying to live ) publish a little pamphlet :“Sac de Noeuds”
Sac de noeuds is a play on words : it is 1) a knotter ditty bag or 2) a bag made of or for knots 3) an almost “slang” word for a very entangled matter.
In “sac de noeuds” N° 4-autum 2005,the equivalent ( by an order of magnitude ?) of Knotting Matters, in “le courrier des lecteurs” (readers’s mail)someone tell of his last holidays in Brittany ( north part of it ) : there he briefly met with an old lighthouse keeper who sold “pomme de touline” ( in fact exact name is “pomme de ligne de touline” ( touline is the specialized name for the heaving line ).
These monkey’s fist knots were bicolored.
Secret is not given.
Does any one ever made a bicolored monkey fist ? or know how to ?
Cheers
Hi Charles,
PAB secretary, Patrick Ducey, makes tri-color (Red, White and Blue) monkey’s fists. He makes them about 3/4" in diameter. They are conventional 6 panel fists, so two opposed panels are Red, two are blue and two are white. I hope he will pick up this thread and explain how he buries the ends but I think he carries the ends out under one or more panels before trimming. He leaves a loop in the regular way. It is departure from the “single strand fist” but the result is very handsome. There are some articles in Knotting Matters, spherical coverings in two or more strands, which yield very pleasing patterns. The tutorials were easy to read… I’ll try to find which issues and post back. Do you tie the 18 panel Knobbly Knot that Mr. Budworth contributed to Knotting Matters. I have tied it in one cord and doubled it in a different color.. put in a third ply in an additional color. It looks pretty good that way too. I just bury the extra ends under one or more panel.
I would love to see one. Any chances of posting a photo? I will submit a photo of the three colored Monkey Fist to my album at www.KHWW.net. I tied them with silk string, very difficult to work with, and I put them around a 3/4" (19mm) wood ball.
Hi Roy! Hi Pat !
Sent an email to Alain Faisant this morning ( my time GMT + 1) asking :
how bicolored ? by panel, by strand, by half, otherwise ?
and if he either would make a post here with link to pics or send me pics that I would put ( with attribution of course ) on my personal web space.
Waiting, but past experience with french people in general, even igkt members leave me somewhat in doubt. Hope it will be a good surprise.
If bicolored by alternate strand, and even number of strands I think the solution is immediate. But what of panels and what of alternate strands but in odd number?
What about Pat_Ducey putting some links to pics of hos work?
I never tought of doing this sort of creative coloring!
At the meeting in Den Helder some of the German members brought 3 coloured monkeys fists. I was to buzy to have a good look at them but maybe Andre did. I know he did publish some of his photos, maybe these too. They were made the same way as Pat’s, as far as I can remember.
Here is a link straight into my gallery on www.KHWW.net. If this doen’t get you in, you might have to register. It is easy, and free. Also check out the knot tutorials.
Basically you tie the monkey fist as usual, but instead of using just one line, you start each coil with a separate string (in different color) and you end up with a multi-color monkey fist with six ends sticking out instead of two (or 4 when just doing the last coil with a separate piece of string).
No instructions but there are many pics of MFs here. Thin blue line for fallen officers and double colored where 2 sides are one color and 4 sides are another color as well as multicolored ones. http://www.themonkeyfist.com/
The thing I love about this forum is, it gives me ideas and also allows me to display my work to the world. It is also record for me as to how “me” the new boy to this is progressing.
This looks a lot more, well, maybe not complicated, but work-intensive then it needs be.
I tried the method mentioned in my previous post using 3 separate strings yesterday and found it was very easy. I tied two tri-colored MF in a row, one in Irish colors, one in German.
They are sturdy as a normal (one string) monkey’s fist, since each coil, though of separate string, passes over one and under one coil.
Another nice feature is that you end up with 6 strings. I cut of 3 and had 3 to work with (matthew walker, crown, portugese sennit etc.) to attach it to something (carabiner e.g.).
I did mention that instead of 3 separate strings you can use just two. Use the first one to do the first couple of coils and use the second string for the final coil and you have a bi-colored monkey fist. Or you can use 3 and have two of them the same color.
I’d say it is simply a hang man’s noose.
Yes, JD’s videos are great in general. This is another way of doing a bi-colored MF. I have not tried it this way as I thought that there might be a problem when you tighten it that the connection point shifts, but now that I think about it, that is probably not the case. I will give it a go some time.