Hi @ all,
I use the water knot (#1412) in a kind of breechloader topology to form a circular noose sitting right off the rope.
Same will work with the flemish bend #1411. Obviously most bends can be used for this task, but the alignment of the working ends is perfect when using #1412. The noose is nicely flat and does not change shape and orientation if the standing parts get tensioned.
I use it in the pulling end of a pulley. I can easily fix the end by arranging the noose around a fixed pole, yet under tension.
2 questions so far: do you know other ways to get a circular noose (not drop-shaped) and especially do you know a way to do this in the bight?
Regards
Birchhatchet
I assume you mean a fixed loop not a noose (a noose is a variable size loop and would close if the standing parts were under tension). The simple reef (square) knot would work and is easier to tie (including under tension) but I’m afraid I don’t know of a TIB loop which doesn’t bring the legs of the loop together making a pear shape rather than a round loop.
Sweeney
“Loop” is exactly what I’ve meant. Seems as if I urgently need to improve my vocabulary. Please be indulgent, I promise to get better. 
Simple reef knot wouldn’t work because of the application.
When I unhand the rope there will be tension on only one side of the reef knot forcing it to keel over.
Then it is indeed a noose formed by a larks head around the standing part. If I add the common additional hitches for more security, the loop will deform.
Birchhatchet
Hi Birchhatchet,
please try this:
form two bights , one in your left hand and one in your right hand, and tie a bend with these two bights, the circular loop is between the two bights. As a bend you can use a Fisherman’s (or double Fisherman’s) knot (ABok #1414, #1415), a sheet bend (or better a Becket Hitch #1492)…
It could be a little bit bulky.
Bye
Hi knotsaver,
#1492 is a direct hit. It looks promising in Paracord and I will test it tomorrow in its natural habitat.
It tucks nicely and regular and I don’t find it bulky at all.
Many thanks for sharing this interesting idea.
Birchhatchet
Just to compare the circular loop candidates:
Top = #1492 Becket Hitch (knotsaver’s valued suggestion)
- just compact
- not symmetric
- TIB
- loop orientated regular
Bottom left = #1411 rethreaded figure-8 aka. Flemish bend
- bulky
- symmetric
- not TIB
- loop a bit skew
Bottom right = #1412 rethreaded overhand aka. Water knot
- compact
- symmetric
- not TIB
- loop orientated regular
If the bight (after the knot was tied) bothers you, you can put the circular loop in the bight (if the dimension is right, it shouldn’t change the form of the circular loop).
If bulk is not a problem and you like symmetry, you can form the two bights, tie a reef (square) knot with these two bights and then put the circular loop in the new formed bights…
(Please check the security of these knots, if they don’t slip for instance. If you put the circular loop in the bights, I think, the knots are more secure)
Ciao,
s.
So after successful testing the suggestions of knotsaver -thanks again- the next question comes up. What about a circular loop perpendicular to the standing part?
An obvious attempt is to transform a symmetric bend with the tails coming out crosswise using it in a single rope. Forming the 1st half normally and the 2nd half in reverse direction will result in an perpendicular circular loop. Attached are 2 pics showing the “crossed camera bend” described in
http://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=5564.0
utilised for that construction.
Any other bend of this type like Zeppelin or Hunter will work as well.
The question is if there is one or more ways to do this TIB.
Birchhatchet
Here I am and here it is
you could tie a Japanese bend (ABoK #1423) with two bights as before, it should work!
ciao,
s.
p.s. you are welcome!
Hey knotsaver… looks good and it does the job. Allow me to ask whether you have thought about this problem just as I asked for a solution or if you access some knowledge earned long ago (presumably solely to help fatuous Germans answering their non-essential questions about - let’s say - cicular loops TIB) ?
… just as you asked for a solution!
(maybe I’m simply a knot genius!
(I’m only joking! 
))
As soon as I read your question I thought about ABoK #1092 (I don’t know why!)
(look at this post http://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=4201.msg36735#msg36735 )
and then after a few attempts the answer arose! I was surprised too and so I wrote “here I am and here it is ;)”
ciao,
s.