hawser bowline, extra step winding the collar legs on

another tucking route through the (pre-)Slip Knot



… a Locked Carrick Loop eye knot

Hi Alana

The Mocha Loop Knot was mentioned in “My New Knots” on 9.11.2018 in the old forum. It was posted in KM143 June 2019.

Happy Knotting

yChan

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furthermore …
(i think I’ve only ever used that word once before!)



Tucking the tail in alongside the standing part, to complete the Locked Left Hand Bowline,
brings out a feature in the core which looks like a bird’s foot.

in terms of notation, this knot might be the “Ms..R..R..Dn with tail to S.Part”, in this series of folded knots,
standing for
• Marlinspike hitch,
• segment to the Right,
• working end coming from the Right side,
• end Down to inside eye,
• tail returned to Standing Part.

at the same time,
I’m interested in a notation that would be “Ms..X..X..Dn”,
where X would denote the crossing point side,
or C would denote the bight side,
instead of Left or Right;
Up or Dn would indicate the direction of the tail;
thus being independent of handedness and orientation.

this is after reading some of Dan L’s notes, with X’s, O’s, and other typography,
though i didn’t have full comprehension of it.


slip knot,
segment to bight side,
working end starting from the bight side,
going upward and making a right hand turn, u,o,uu,o

forms a sort of Chinese crown loop,
shown to be a locked anti-bowline
(?).
same video, on youtube:

the ‘qp’ eye knot anyway

starts out SK..X..X..
don’t know how to shorthand notate the rest

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@eric22 Alan has tied it here!, i think,
and in the same colour
(i rotated and mirrored the image)

tying Lee’s link bowline by Xarax
via Ms..X..C..Up
• Marlinspike hitch,
• standing part segment to right / crossing point side,
• tuck working end from left / bight side,
• with tail to outside of eye

so far i have read the terms
‘trick’, (Ashley)
‘jamming’, (Ashley)
‘folding’, (moi)
‘snap’, (@SS369)
‘locking’, (@siriuso)
and ‘backflipping’, (@Dan_Lehman)
used to describe this folding action.

here in a post by Xarax, saying

my read is that we are meaning the same thing that i’m (trying) describing as 'segment pulled out and to the (left / right / crossing point / bight) side.

i had considered it a ‘twist’, or a half twist, or ‘swap’, and further a full twist or ‘wrap’, but lacked the knowledge of the names of the parts :man_tipping_hand:

this is the post: Samisen TIB bowline - #2 by xarax
so, 11 years later, I’m commemorating the posts :laughing:

i maybe shouldn’t be using the term ‘locked’; i’ve just been reading older post chat that a lock is not what’s going on here with the resultant additional … u-fold? tuck? half a turn? :thinking: hook? clasp? u-turn tail? (Ychan)

hook / claw action and appearance