Hi Alan
I’m not sure if it is unique, in the sense that it has never been recorded before, but i do love such effective and exceptional bend mechanisms with these special bowline characteristics that make a difference at the loosening stage.
I think Ychan would also appreciate such a mechanism to grace his bend archives, unless, of course , he has already developed it.
Yes, I discovered these (or one of…) e2e Joints myself,
and concur in your feelings about them. They have a
lovely curvature to the S.Part, strong nipping of the Tails,
and easy untying --the sort of joint one would want to use
for say tying 11mm low-elongation kernmantle ropes together
for pulling a stuck vehicle!
IMO, they are kin to Ashley’s #1425, a knot due more recognition.
Now, how strong are these sorts of things --is that “lovely curvature”
giving strength, or rather movement->heat->weakness (alas) !?
Thanks for all the replies. Sure, Ychan has many bends, some of his simple bends may have a good chance.
Apply these techniques and turn them into good bends. If anyone is interested in playing with it,
you are more than well come. Thanks.
Hi Alan
Well done.
Happy Mid-Autumn Festival Day.
yChan
Very interesting creations Alan - thank you.
The knots in ‘reply 62’ display a unique technical genius.
The integration of ‘Crossing hitches’ and ‘Bights’ is demonstrating and opening up new ways of thinking.
I like the logic behind the geometry - where you have tried to build a creation around a ‘Crossing hitch’.
I believe that a large part of your motivation was to achieve resistance to jamming.
EDIT NOTE:
Dan Lehman appears to making a counter-claim that he also discovered one of your presented knots?
It is not made clear as to precisely which knot he is claiming?
Although Dan had previously intimated that he cares little for ‘Academy awards’ and/or recognition of achievement?
In that; there is no recognition or award given to the creator of a knot?
Hi Alan
Re Rely #39.
I have working on your Bowline Bend #1034 half, and found some question. Is the “A” rope goes under “B” rope? I have posted my findings here. It is always better to present new knots with loosen knot pictures or tying method.
yChan
Hi yChan,
I hear you will fix it later.
I have two bends here. Please let me know if I have named it correctly.
Thanks alanleeknots
ABOK #1425
Hi Alan
You can name your bends whatever you like. IMO, the Knot Base (i.e. Reef Knot, Thief Knot, ABOK#1010 etc.) can be omitted. The name of types/variations should be placed between the name and the last word “Bend”.
At this moment, I find your discovered bend “Lee’s Unconventional Bend V2” is the same as my “Teepee Bend” in my folders. Please check my folders.
You may find my folders are useful in identifying whether it is a new bend or not. The methods are by Appearance, Loops Form/Knot Base.
Happy Knotting
yChan
Hi yChan,
Congratulations, you have a created a great Bend. All the hard work paid off.
Such a bend is hard to come by. Enjoy it the rest of your life.
The e2e joint shown (both top & bottom) in the lower part of
the 2nd/middle image is a good find :: it seems to pretty well
redress the problem of distortion in the like knot that lacks
these crossed Tails --a "False Zeppelin" it’s often called.
I’ve long been annoyed that Thrun’s Joint /Zeppelin lacked
a nice exit of the Tails; one could dress them into position
where the S.Parts’ draw would pull them to some apparent
decent effect, but that was somewhat iffy in stability.
HowNotTo’s testing has shown amazing distortion in the
Thrun’s Joint, and I wonder if this “crossed” False Zep.
might fare better (as crossing Tails also improves the
SmitHunter’s Joint) ?!
I’ve illustrated several of these e2e joints,
but am not sure what pushed me in their direction
–e.g., was I aiming for non-jamming structure,
or “riffing” on Ashley’s under-appreciated #1425.
What’s “counter”, here?
It is of some value to understand what paths led to some
knotted structure. Sometimes it’s the oops-I-got-that-wrong
path when aiming for something else. Today, in looking over
the particular image of quite “exploded”/open/loose Grapevine
Joint I mentally reversed one crossing and got --and soon had
sketched, lest it be FORgotTEN-- a pull-together joint using
Fig.9s :: might it have a benefit over the Strangles? (I’m
thinking of less rope-flow of the coils of each half.)
The loverly “Teepee” structure looks to be to be quite
UNjammable, and with strong-looking (to my UNtrained eye)
S.Part curvature. But, as I remarked above,
Now, how strong are these sorts of things --is that “lovely curvature”
giving strength, or rather movement->heat->weakness (alas) !?
Heavy loading I think will go without much issue;
but cyclic back’n’forth in a tow line, well, maybe
there one would see chafing wear?!
Hi Alan
Re Reply#67.
This presented photo shows the knot base is Neat & New Crossed A Bend. This Neat & New Crossed A Bend is the reverse of ABOK#1425 Bend. So should you rename your new bend. I will include your new bend in my folders.
yChan
Hi yChan,
I am getting confused and I am not sure ? I don't know how to reverse Abok #1425.
May need some help from Mark or any knot Tyers. Thanks alanleeknots.
Hi Alan
A bend has 2 standing parts and 2 working ends. You just shift the 2 standing parts to become 2 working ends and eventually the original working ends become standing parts. Then this is the reverse bend of the original bend. Some reverse will become another bend, some will not. Reverse of ABOK#1424 is not a bend, but a loops form. ABOK#1425 Bend’s reverse is Neat & New Crossed A Bend.
yChan
… load the Tails.
For an EyeKnot, I define “reverse” to swap the loadings of
each of the 2 pieces in the 2-Tangle, after cutting apart the loop
(well, my Tangle never connected it)
and joining the old S.Part & Tail),
and thus the 1-2 piece will shift from 100%-&-50% to 50%-&-100%,
and the A-B piece likewise goes from 50%(RELeg) -&- 0%.
(Interestingly, the Reverse of the Fig.8 EK changes the
Interior/Exterior loading --S.Part & Tail being opposite in this.)
For the e2e Joint, “reverse” = “Tail-loaded”,
but not for Eye Knots.
We need to be careful not to hijack or de-rail Alan Lee’s topic thread.
Dan, I have started a new topic thread titled; “Transposition”
With absolutely, no intention of overshadowing the other Alan Lee’s creations, i believe, the super bend of reply#59, for which Siriuso gets full credit so far, as the first inventor, shouldn’t get lost in translation.
More specifically, if there was a subfolder in new knots investigation field, which would host the best knots with high acceptability by the majority of the knotting community, that were presented strictly in this platform, this so called Teepee joint, would have had more than just a good chance of being included in such a folder.
Of course, “such a knot” would have to be subjected to a series of tests concerning strength, stability, jam resistance, drop tests and so on, conducted by most of the interested knotters and would had to pass successfully and survive through this test procedure.
I’ m not refering to a folder with a plethora of knots, but only with the best of the best, maybe even less than ten.
Examples of potential qualifiers: Ampersand bowline, Lee’s link bowline, Z8, Teeppee … and so on.
This would also give more motivation to all creators ;).
Hi,
Thanks for all the replies and help. Another bend here. Never do any tests, she'll be fine.
It looks good to me. Thanks alanleeknots.
Hi Alan
Re #39
I tried to work on your bends Bowline #1010 Bend and Bowline #1034 Half Bend. I found that the start is not loops form of Bowline #1010 for the Bowline #1010 Bend, it is a Grief Knot. Will you please check on these two Bends.
yChan