Need assistance with these Eye knots (History)

[xarax]

@Dan_Lehman post:63

Except that here you show an overhand knot opened into an “8” shape.

Before you try to show up your keystroking talent, READ :

@xarax post:127

In (1), I have shown a bowline with an overhand shaped “8” collar structure - try it and see if it is easy to untie or not.

1. http://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=5357.msg35854#msg35854

We have discussed this many times in the past, but, evidently, you have forgotten it… The symmetric geometrically, overhand knot ( which is the ONLY beautiful overhand knot- the other looks like s… ), IS shaped like a figure “8” ( and not like a figure “7”, for example… ) - and when geometry, and not topology, matters, like it happens here, there is no difference between the shaped “8” overhand knot and the knot we use to call “fig.8”. I could well had placed a topologically fig.8 in the same place, as a collar structure : it would make no difference for the nub of this bowline.
Therefore, instead of 'teaching" the difference between the geometrical and the topological figure “8”, perhaps it would be better for you to think a little more and try to answer the crux of the matter- on which you remain silent :

@xarax post:127

I have told it time and again, and I will tell it once more : Beware of overhand loops and fig.8 loops tied on the Standing Part before the eye, and even in the Standing Part after the eye. It is such a simple rule of thumb !