Please help identify the name of this knot for me.

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Could someone please help identify the name of this knot for me?

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What you have is first a Round Turn (2 wraps) around the object. Then you tie a Triple Overhand Knot around the standing part to get a noose. Ashley calls this noose a Scaffold Knot or a Gallows Knot [ABoK #1120, 1121]. A more informative name would be a Triple Overhand Noose, with the Round Turn as a nice additional feature.

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| Dennis_Pence
10 May |

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What you have is first a Round Turn (2 wraps) around the object. Then you tie a Triple Overhand Knot around the standing part to get a noose. Ashley calls this noose a Scaffold Knot or a Gallows Knot [ABoK #1120, 1121]. A more informative name would be a Triple Overhand Noose, with the Round Turn as a nice additional feature.

Better : “Dbl. Strangle Noose” (w/round turn).
(“Overhand” is most general vs. “strangle’s”
limited forms. And I like how the “double”
matches the two overwraps; the (single)
overhand having none, hence its need for “triple”, here.)

It would be nice to see this version (w/round turn)
tested, and also to see the triple OH here in Strangle
form be put into Anchor Bend form. Tests of the
non-round-turn’d knot have shown the break coming
where the Strangle turns hard around the S.Part;
using the Anchor Bend form would remove this sort
of contact.

–dl*
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Dan is correct that a Multiple Overhand when tied around an object in this fashion is often called a Strangle Knot {2-turn or Double Overhand [ABoK #1239]; 3-turn or Triple Overhand [ABoK #1240, 3440]}.

I sometimes take it as a challenge to implement something Dan has suggested. I experimented with trying to include some part of the Tripple Overhand Noose into the Round Turn as in an Anchor Bend [ABoK #1841, 1842, 1843]. Here is the best of what I tried. I wrap the Tripple Overhand a quarter turn more and tuck it into the Round Turn in the back. That way we still see a full three wraps all around. While it is possibly more secure, it most definitely will be harder to untie, and it is harder to tighten.

I like what you have better. If you want something similar which is easier to untie, you can replace the Triple Overhand Noose with an Ichabod Knot [#1123] which also has three wraps. But this Round Turn and Ichabod Knot is not as nice looking. I also tried two Round Turns with the Triple Overhand Noose (as Ashley suggests for [#1836]}, but it did not look very nice either.

is often called a Strangle Knot

Actually, not --that’s the sad thing : there IS this
“Strangle” name for the particular struture, but
the literature instead usually makes the comical
“half-a-Dbl.-Fish.” or some such.

to implement something Dan has suggested. I experimented with trying to include some part of the Tripple Overhand Noose into the Round Turn as in an Anchor Bend

While I only just did the same tuck-under-turn
that you show, it’s not this Anchor Bend aspect
I’ve been advocating. (And, IMO, this tuck-under
looks to ruin the probably-better-performance-wise
rounding wraps (of perhaps nice firm & smooth
& heat-absorbing metal) of the OP knot.)

Now, what I --often voicing-- want to see is the
hitch-part of this structure
(i.e., what comes after the (well chosen) round turn)
be an Anchor Bend --and in either with the AB
S.Part near the RT, coiling away,
or tied in reverse/Tail-Loaded --the reach
away then coiling back towards the RT/object.

In this latter formation, the post-RT force runs
up to a broad Anchor-Bend turn down to its
wrapping the overall structure’s S.Part,
with the force crunching the turns but not
seeing turns tighten around S.Part, but
making a broad (2-3 diameter) collar the
S.Part bears into but isn’t Strangle’d by.
(Testing --at least some-- showing that
the Strangle apparently so nips the overall
S.Part that the S.Part breaks at entry point.)

And the former structure --Anchor Bend
loaded normally w/its S.Part nearer the object–
will have AB wraps tightening around
the S.Part, but at the entry point it will
be later wraps, the stronger force upon
the nearer-to-object ones --which come
with a slightly greater around’ing than
the longer reach to the entry point.

–dl*
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