Hey all, trying to find out whether what I’ve done here is old hat/how old hat.
Essentially, it’s a marlinspike hitch, on a closed pole, on the bight.
I’ve been comparing it to the Halter Hitch, and I’m pretty confident that by not forming the turn around the standing part it is a distinctly different hitch. Someone with more experience may be able to ken otherwise.
From a functionality point-of-view, yes it works perfectly fine.
However, it should be pointed out that the tail (non-loaded end of the rope) - needs to located precisely in the position as depicted in your video. Otherwise, when you pull to release, you will not end up with an uninhibited free-flowing rope.
Try this for yourself. Experiment with the position of the ‘tail’ end of the rope and see if you can get a clean unimpeded release - or if you are left with a remnant hitch wrapped around the hand-rail.
So yes - your hitch works - but it needs to be stated that its quick-release functionality may be inhibited if the ‘tail’ is not lying or positioned in the correct manner.
Mark G
The usual/expected hitch here is the clove hitch.
I don’t see this alternative as all so attractive;
one might question the actual-factual needs for
such a hitch --quick release possibly being well
down the list. (And it seems to be a rather long
line being hitched.)
I’m not so confident that the hitch will preserve
the nipping turn.
A clove with a slip-knot stopper is a secure
option that gives some QR aspect (but not “slip-free”
release).
@Dan-Lehman
Do you think that the hitch showed in this attachment can qualify as being part of the clove hitch structure family? Any thoughts?
@agent-smith
Well spotted!
@Agargoyle
Good post, a video is always welcome!
Welcome to a forum. I have looked at your video, all is excellent is shown. Н, it seems to me that this knot takes place already to be, or is similar on the Halter Hitch
Hi All,
To tie a fender, I prefer to tie this mid line quick release Clove hitch from a video by Александр Ловков at 1: 50 min,
This is an easier way to tie a fender. 謝謝 alan lee.
So sorry am at work w/o play string!
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Can’t open all pix at work.
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To me initial vid shows more of a BackHand Hitch base type pull;
Control side gets a Crossed Turn to reeve Standing Part thru ; which is then/can be slipped.
closer to if didn’t give crossed turn on control side would reeve bight of Bitter End /quick release under (perhaps daisy chain) for Highwayman’s i’d think.
Only here incorporate the shrinking choke at the premium full force top nip position , around control leg
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A Clove base to me would be more of a continuous direction around host rail, this reverses.
A Halter to me is more a slipped Over Hand type with Nip /lock on load side; this shows line travels from here to opposite side of rail/spar than loading
taking Top Nip position to ‘hold fast’, inline opposite of loading where line seats to host most, Halter ‘hold fast’ to me Nips more to the load side of pull where line is pulling away from host rail.
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In any case the Top Nip mechanic is superior Nip position; as is Equal & Opposite / pure inline to the loading side.
And kinda would think Navy Marine posting this confidently at sea has well tested the lacing!
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Will play with for a few days/weekend, Thanx!
So sorry am at work w/o play string!
Note to Everyone: Get Play String!
Sounds Fair!
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Can see Alan Lee movie now, nice boat works pix @1.50/after including Slipped Clove, didn’t see what Dan was talking about before, sorry. But once again probably a well tested arraignment shown with Best (top) .
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Cramer Hitch = Better RT Nip Halter if Nip after Backhand Turn if RT choke on Bitter End slip stays topside (?)
Best Nip would be equal/opposite of the load pull at peak of that inline radian seating rope most intensely to host rail
as shown (in both vids)
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Cramer could similarly stretch out RT Nip ‘collar’ to a more braid ‘linear’ RT of same amount of turns
but rail probably not enough ‘topside’ to give the intense Nip to lesser position in radian/linear arc (?)
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Personal fave for this type pull would be like a slipped Bag Knot(?)but that would be to larger rail/post
on a smaller rail, if RT Nip happy to stay topside (materials, loading, water variables etc.), not walk nor flatten
This Cramer would seem to be a very expedient use of forces
i personally would favour the weight of the slipped bight pulling RT collar closed rather than open
in actual use mite flop anyway, tho i would initially groom not to!
Shown is form whereby the RT Nip on quick release is load/Standing Part crossing under to flow force thru more than Nip at RT?
This would seem to make most sense,but was form tried were most loaded part crosses over not under on top RT /choke ring on quick release?
Yes, I’d see it as an extension to the (base) clove h..
I should remark that these slipped knots can be
quite UNeasy to untie in rope that isn’t greatly
flexible --as the bight-end makes a sort of bulb
which won’t want to pull out! (I often wonder if
those who claim such “easy” loosening have ever
really experienced it, in some real situation