Tresse bowline variation/modification -- TIB

[xarax]

I would n be surprized if this change ( modification, as you like to describe any additional re-tuckings on the same base, starting from the same underlying knot…) would be exactly what was missing from the Ttresse bowline right from the beginning : namely, a more complex bight component structure, in accordance ( “balance”, as I like to describe it ) with the more complex nipping structure. Although you had not made the full operation I had proposed - to make the second U-turn around the rim of the “lower” nipping turn only, and then drive the working end through the “higher” nipping turn, and then through the collar (1) - nevertheless you did enhanced the material and/or psychological security of the structure to a great degree.

@X1 post:5

Do you really wish to improve the bowline ? Improve the nipping loop AND the collar, not only the one or the other.
A more complex nipping structure should come hand to hand / embraced with a more complex collar structure, otherwise the balance and efficient co-operation of the two structures that were proved so effective even in the case of the “common” bowline would be lost.
All that I am saying is that you made the one step, you improved the nipping structure, but you should also make the second one, and improve the collar structure as well.

1. http://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=4453.msg28231#msg28231

@X1 post:3

I wonder, would it be too much, an overkill (?), to just turn the tail upwards and retuck it through the upper / higher part of the double nipping loop, and through the collar ?