Hi ! Want to play ?
Can you find its ABOK number ?
First prize to the one who can give the number
Second prize to the best made one with this diagram!
Cheers
Hello Charles, ;D
I don’t know ??? :-/
“I give my tongue to the cat” !!! 
Amitiés à toi,
Al
That appears to be a 6 bight Turks Head, closed to 3 bights on each end. It is not in Ashley. I have posted several templates of 8 bight Turks Heads closed to 4 bights on each end on the www.KHWW.net website. This knot appears to follow the same rule of common divisor, with a six bight TH as the original knot.
Tied in hand, you start with a 5L x 6B TH. Then take another piece of string and start to double the knot. Every other time when you come to the end of the knot, skip two bights, and follow the third bight. This knot has only 3 leads in the base knot, so you have to skip bights 2 leads early on one end of the knot all the way around. When you get back to the start, remove the original TH, and you have your knot. It finished up very nice as a spherical knot. I had these instructions published in KM 54 for an 8 bight TH, but the same rules apply to a 6 bight TH. It is confusing to teach how to do it in a text format, I would love to show you how I do it.
I prefer to use templates on a cylinder as opposed to flat layouts. If you would like, I can make a cylindrical template for this knot that would tape to a toilet paper tube. It would be faster to tie, but the template takes more room to store. I don’t have a website, and KHWW is having problems with their tutorials page, but if you want I can send you templates in an Adobe format to post.
Pat
Sorry Pat Ducey it is indeed in ABOK! and I did not use any of your templates for throwing it flat I must say that dressing and setting it was not ‘easy’.
It is another ‘example’ of the necessity of not confounding
structure with geometry. By no means I am giving a knotting lesson here!
Hi Charles,
At first I thought I had seen this one before in ABOK as the Basket knot (#669), but the structure of your knot is different. It is easy to make, especially given the diagram and, try as I might, I cannot find the diagram in ABOK! Your knot uses a 3B2L inside an impossible 3B3L, making a 3B5L with three of the bights inside on each half, and the leads stopped halfway through! Very clever! The unusual structure of the crossing lead moving halfway across and then doubling back again to complete its original path is wonderful! I love the pattern this makes! Almost all the single strand knob knots in ABOK make LH followed by RH circles in equal numbers. Same thing with lanyard knots and other knob knots. #2450 in Fancy knots comes to mind as reminiscent of the structure and the thump mat has some features that are similar. Where IS it? I’ll keep looking - thanks for a great puzzle!
Lindsey
Hi Lindsey and again Hi Pat
Lindsey
Be sure I did not invent it ! Found it in ABOK,
as it was interesting to me Re my ‘dissertation’ on crossings and all that
I did a diagram with straight lines easier to use than the
( tip here ) the rounded curves usually used.
Second tip : Ashaley diagram is ‘good’ but his drawn rendering
of the finished knot is not really top of the barrel !
Pat
I would love to get your diagram for a really spherical knot, that would be a treat!
Please contact me by mail so that we can arrange that.
As for ALL your templates IFF you want I offer to host them on my webspace.
I will put them all in a Picasa slideshow for user friendliness
( easy to see them all and to download ) and give you the link so that you can
publish it.
Cheers and thank you for playing.
Hi Charles, and All,
Just a quick one, is it #609 ?
only one I can think of at the mo, I have not made it yet as I am so busy on other things today.
Take care,
Barry
Hi Barry
Not #609.
But I can see why you thought of that one.
How about using my diagram and throwing one ?
It will certainly clarify the ‘beast’ in your mind.
Thanks for being a player.
I think it is 1391, I have a second guess for if it isn’t, however. Tying is not as easy as it may seem to you, both your way and Ashleys are completelydifferent from how I tie knots.
Willeke
I will go with willeke on that one,
after making the knot from you diagram and then rounding out your triangles, it is as plain as day.
Not a big fan of cork mats, I prefer to tie direct around my hand or. the object to be covered
nice little knot though.
Barry ;D
ABOK 1395,
BRAVO !
it is " 1391 indeed.
Well my diagram made for a very easy way of tying, much more easy for children to follow straigth lines than curves, but in the end it is all a matter of personal preference.
Barry if you are interested in TH just mail me and you will get what could be a nice surprise! Any others interested are ‘invited’ too.
Cheers and thanks to all players.
Well done Willeke! Has anyone tried increasing the number of bights around the knot? I shall try it myself and see what comes out of it. Also, Willeke, what method would you use to make this one - you said that the method of drawing it out does not work as well for you, so how would you suggest to make it? I know that some prefer to tie a base knot first and then expand on it, but I do not know how to do that with this one. Thanks for all the suggestions!
Lindsey
I have been playing with TH’s round the fingers, then enlarged in odd ways. They mostly do not work out, but it is a fun way to spend the time you are otherwise being bored. Like when traveling on a bus.
So I would make a TH, say the 4 l x 5 b, and start following, coming to the outide of the knot I would take an other lead to follow by random, but keep making the same leap the next time I come to the edge of the knot. The leaps can be made on one side of the knot or on both. But mostly the knots resulting do not work out, also because I often do this in places where I am sure to be distracted.
This kind of knot may not lend itself to working on the fingers, but then I would prefer working round a tube before working on a cork mat.
Nautile, what did I win? Just the honour, 
that is enough for me.
Willeke
Bonjour,
A description for doing this knot easily is give in Knotting Matters issue 82 march 2004 as “18 sided monkey’s fist” (but it is not really a monkey fist).
Geoffrey Budworth take and publish it in Knot News – IGKT –PAB issue 42 January 2004 as “Knobbly Knot” and we publish it in the “Sac de Noeuds” n° 2 printemps 2005 as “pomme à 18 faces”
With the same technique (Turk’s head with parallels bights) there is a lot of knot. Only some are in Ashley (2216 with 24 faces, 2217 with 40 faces)
Luc PROUVEUR
PS Toutes mes amitiés Willeke
Sorry, something wrong with the machine I try again
Bonjour,
A description for doing this knot easily is give in Knotting Matters issue 82 march 2004 as 18 sided monkey’s fist (but it is not really a monkey fist).
Geoffrey Budworth take and publish it in Knot News IGKT PAB issue 42 January 2004 as Knobbly Knot and we publish it in the Sac de Noeuds n° 2 printemps 2005 as pomme à 18 faces
With the same technique (Turk’s head with parallels bights) there is a lot of knot. Only some are in Ashley (2216 with 24 faces, 2217 with 40 faces)
Luc PROUVEUR
PS Toutes mes amitiés Willeke
Hello Luc,
I do not see the same result that you see for the 18-faced knot in KM#82. When I tie the 18-faced knot, the movement of the cord is to wrap over and then under itself (or under then over) and in doing so it makes first a right-hand or clockwise turn followed by a counterclockwise turn, just like Ashley’s single strand knots. The knot that Willeke and others have identified is different in that the cord makes a pass across most of the body of the knot and then reverses its direction, thus making an “S” shape. The result of this is to produce a bight below the outer edge of the TH without ever crossing itself or making any loops like the 18-faced knot does. Your 18-faced knot makes turns in a clockwise and then a counterclockwise direction. Do you see the difference? Let me know..
Lindsey
Bonjour Lindsey,
Sorry but I am sure that ABOK 1391, Nautil diagram and 18 faces knot are the same because it is exactly the same diagram.
I don t anderstand why you have clockwise and counterclockwise direction. Always you have to turn in the same direction.
I think there is a mistake. Perhaps there is a confusion with the drawing. The axis of the knot is where you have two fingers so you turn alway in the same direction.
Cordialement, Luc
Ah! Merci Luc,
I now see that I have examined the same knot from two distinct perspectives - one like the ABOK #1391 and one tied the same (as I now see) but having the axis in a different plane. All three have the same final shape around a ball, but have you tried tying the knot in the same manner suggested by Nautile? You will then obtain a cylindrical shaped knot where the axes that are shown in ABOK are shifted diagonally across the knot to give a cylinder with three bights at each end, each of which bights has another bight below it and to the left or right. Those subordinate bights are then repeated on the other end of the cylinder, producing the S-shape of which I wrote in my earlier post. Try it please and let me know your thoughts. I will try to post a photograph of the three knots, one around a cylinder. Now I see why I did not originally see it in ABOK - my mistake!
Lindsey