Hallo!
I need help whit making Little Lump Knot if someone have a
diagram of LLK or link please send me.
I find tutorial on http://knotical-arts.com/knot.html but it did not help me.
Soory for english.
Hi, The LLK is a crown applied to a complex diamond. I know this must be the equivilent of saying it is a Rembrant on top of a Goya. In knotting you need (to be good at it) to start with the simple knots and build up until you have all the background and have learned the knotting terms and skills to do the difficult knots. You may be able to ride a unicycle but you must have started with a two wheel push bike? Jumping in at LLK (while it can be done) wastes so much of your time. The LLk is a crown on a complex lanyard knot. As the author said of it.. “I am suprised CWA did not think of it” But of course CWA did not “publish this knot” so we need to credit it to “PvDG”. I am sorry if I did not get the abriviations correct. The master knotter and author to whom I refer is “Pieter van de Griend”. Now my question becomes simple: PVDD is alive and well. Why not converse with him about his LLK? Do it on site so we can see the interchange. I admit… If I had not tied LLk from other diagrams I’d have been in the dark from the posts you have linked.
hello Domagoj Nola…
…i put the instructions on for the LLK…it took me
a long time to figure out how to make the LLK
…it is very hard to put the instructions on the internet
so that all folks will be able to understand them…
…i made this dog toy with 1/4" sisal…the small LLK is
Kelty Triptease cord…i wish i could show folks in person
how i make the knots i tye…perhaps if you can email me
with specific questions??!!: knot_tyer@knotical-arts.com
…the LLK is a great knot and actually fairly simple to make!!..
(even though it took me a couple of years to figure out!!!)..
Domagoj Nola,
if you want to try the more simple forms of the same knots before trying the knotical arts instructions again, many of them are on my site, here is a list with the knots: http://www.home.zonnet.nl/willeke_igkt/tables/used_knots_table.html
Willeke
Tanks for helping me but i put a little efort and i have make
Rembrant on top of a Goya the knot_tyer have make a great
tutorial for LLK
Well it looks as if the link I put in the forum on KHWW worked for him Dan. ;D
soory but i can’t read khww forum because i can’t register on
that forum
Exactly. I got tired of the spam dumpers commin to KHWW and posting their garbage. So in order to protect our younger viewers and members I made it so only members of KHWW can view and post messages. I sure hope others can understand this.
i am glad that i can’t writte on your f… forum and if you thinck that my post is a spam because i need help whit knot you taking this too serius.this is too funny for me
you behave like you are some kind doctor of sience because
you know tie few f… knots.
Get a life man.
I guess this is the problem with some one like you. did you see anywhere in the post I made referring to you as spam dumping? You asume too much. Maybe you’re just hard headed.
i am glad that i can't writte on your f...... forum and if you thinck that my post is a spam because i need help whit knot you taking this too serius.this is too funny for me you behave like you are some kind doctor of sience because you know tie few f...... knots. Get a life man.
First, I think that kind of language is really not necessary here.
Second, I know exactly what KnotHead is referring to. (And if you actually read what he writes, you might, too!) On another of my favourite forums, they are facing the same problem. So-called “spambots” are dumping spam posts, containing lists of links to (mostly) porn and such sh-t, under every section and sub-section of the forum, every day. Every day! Until now the people running the page have felt it important that everyone should be free to write there without registering, but they may be forced (get that? FORCED! They do not like it!) to change that in order to keep the forum functional.
Get… some help for your attitude problem, man! 
Lasse C
I am so sad that it has come to this. Someone is so frightened of life to not stand forward with his (or her) own name? After 911 in USA I was also embarassed that folks seemed to be frightened of their own shadow. I am Roy Chapman. I live at 60805 Rockport Cascade Road, Marblemount Washington, USA. I am sorry that giving out your Email address has cowed you so much. Do you think that the boogy man is going to come to my door because they know where I live? The fear you have of regestering at KHWW is silly. But it is your loss. Sorry. Cowards did a thousand deaths, heros die but one. That is a quote not a threat, butthole.
Sorry to be off thread. Sorry to have posted “butthole”. I was just so angry that the poster could not give his Email at KHWW. There are many sites that I do not give my ID to… but I don’t need to moan about it at IGKT. For all of you “without fear” go to WWW.KHWW.NET and see the fine knot show we had yesterday… go to the gallery and then work your way down to the PAB gallery. Again, I am sorry to have posted anything rude, I was simply trying to send a "PM’ to Domagoj Nola about his “problem” with KHWW and I got carried away. So now you have my opinion as a member and as a guest. Two posts in a row. I am sorry that Domagoj’s language prompeted me to post back at the same low level. Be that as it may..: the LLK is a “way cool” terminal knot and since the poster has learned how to tie it I am happy.
Roy Chapman:
Hi, I admire your persistence. Glad it worked for you. Since you jumped in at such a difficult spot you may find most of the fancy knotting easy from here on. I am sorry you couldn’t get on at KHWW. I’ll leave it to KnotHead to help you log in. It is a good site to be able to use so stick with that too.
Cheers.
This must be help or what?
There could be a bit of a misunderstanding here …
Domagoj says “i can’t register on that forum.”
I can’t either.
I tried to a couple of days ago, and kept getting an error message saying “invalid nickname” with no further explanation as to what the problem with the nickname was (whether it was already taken, contained illegal characters, was too long, too short, etc.)
I emailed the webmaster who cheerfully and promptly replied to say “no problem, I’ll register you myself”, but there is some problem with new registrations at that site.
So maybe Domagoj doesn’t want to hand over his email - but he didn’t actually say that as far as I can see, that seems to be an assumption - but maybe he just had the same problem I did.
This must be help or what?I'm going to have to go with "or what" here, Domagoj Nola. You [b][i]can[/i][/b] get help here, but you need to be very, [b][i]very[/i][/b] careful how you ask, and what words you use, and of whom. Think Soviet-bloc Party apparatchik and you'll do okay.
If you have access to newsgroups, you’ll find that the group:rec.crafts.knots is a little more useful in terms of “open discussion” regarding knots. There are egos to deal with there too, but they’re more diluted by the rest of us. And yes, there’s spam too, which you’ll have to ignore or filter, like the rest of us (“grown-ups”) do. And no sign-up.
You see, people, we’re not “afraid” of posting our E-mail, we just don’t want {whomever} deciding some day that s/he just must have more money & the spammers are throwing buckets of it at him/her, so… You may not now be feeding the spammers, but I (among others) don’t care to have to change E-maill addresses because of what you might be doing later!!
Besides, did it not occur to any tender egos here that maybe our new guy, Domagoj Nola, might either A: not even have an E-mail address to give (who uses library/public computers?) or B: live in a country where maintaining anonymity might actually be a survival skill?? Hmmmm???
And since there seem to be few who’ll read back, let me
Posted by: Knot Head Posted on: Apr 9th, 2006, 6:03am Well it looks as if the link I put in the forum on KHWW worked for him Dan.Posted by: domagoj nola Posted on: Apr 9th, 2006, 5:28pm
soory but i can’t read khww forum because i can’t register on
that forumPosted by: Knot Head Posted on: Apr 9th, 2006, 11:43pm
Exactly. I got tired of the spam dumpers commin to KHWW and posting their garbage. So in order to protect our younger viewers and members I made it so only members of KHWW can view and post messages. I sure hope others can understand this.
So you, Knot Head, interjected your own self-satisfied little spam message (allegedly to “Dan”, except there’s no “Dan” in this conversation, is there? Since you’re so knowledgeable about the subject, you know that’s one hallmark of spam – casually addressing an uninvolved 3rd party.) about your “KHWW”, which is (by your own admission) only available to (signed up) members, which Domagoj Nola has politely informed you he could not do, so in reply you launch into a diatribe about spammers, “exactly,” and now Domagoj Nola and I both think you meant him, “exactly” (he admitted he’s new at English, but I’ve been fluent at it for 45+ years), and his thread/ question is now wrecked thanks to you, and no, PABPRES, your comments didn’t help this time. Domagoj Nola is the injured party here, as well as the rest of us who were enjoying an interesting thread about knotting until you came along, and if anyone can’t see that, you’re just not reading. I don’t know what your native language is, Knot Head, but what you wrote in this thread looks, to a native English speaker, like recruitment spam, a “puff”, and a major put-down. And I though Fairlead was a wet blanket!
It’s a wonder y’all let [i]anybody[/i] post here in the first place! Or is it just having newbies with non-Western names pop up that gets you people so angry?? (This is not the first time I’ve witnessed you people blow up on a newbie like this!!)
It’s no wonder people don’t want to join your silly social club!! Between Fairlead’s “you’re not a member” posts and the rest of the crew picking on odd turns of a foreign phrase, to the bushwhacking Knot Head just launched, it’s a wonder any knotting goes on here at all!!
This is the “International Guild” of what, again??
In case no one has noticed, most of us come here to learn how to tie knots better, not to get mired down in you people’s “issues”. If that’s too much to ask of the International Guild of freaking Knot Tyers, perhaps Mr. Budworth has wasted his complete time and complete effort on all of you.
Domagoj Nola, please accept my apologies, if none else but mine be offered, for the appalling way you (among others) have been treated here. Please accept without reason that there are some of us out here who do care to see your knotting skills increase, with or without our help. And try Google next time, as well as group:rec.crafts.knots.
Now, Squarerigger did it nicely, I’m doing it my way: The gauntlet is thrown down: Is the IGKT going to continue to be an inbred social club, or are you people going to step up & become the “Guild” the rest of us are all looking for? I’d suggest if you people can’t do it, the rest of us should take up the banner ourselves. You can go be the “Insufferable Group of Kranky Twits” for all we care. It’s time to put petty rudeness behind us & get more knots tied better! All the other crafts & trades have their respective, respectable “guilds”! If Knot Tying – the oldest technology we humans (on both sides of the Iron Curtain) have – doesn’t have a Guild, maybe we’re just asking the wrong people to build it.
A.Nonymous, good on you for giving Domagoj some practical help, and I have to say I read this thread yesterday and thought, “wha …?”
But …
Maybe I shouldn’t comment because I don’t really hang out here much, but I think you’re a little unfair to Fairlead.
That post of his you refer to actually rang bells with me, as someone who burned out totally as a volunteer in one organisation and has had to put up some boundaries in another to avoid being run into the ground. Fairlead’s absolutely right to point out that some adjustment of expectations has to occur when dealing with volunteer organisations. He may have been a little het up but he pointed out some work that the original poster might not have been aware of and then took the points made “on board”. It seemed to me the comment re membership was to do with whether or not the poster receives IGKT published material, which contains some of the work being discussed - a non-member obviously may not be “up to speed” if they don’t read the magazines.
Fairlead, and some other IGKTers, without knowing me from a bar of soap, put themselves out to meet up with me last year when I was travelling from the other side of the world, and were most helpful and friendly, and generous with their time and experience. No “inbred social club” there - I’m from a convict colony!
Way off topic, I know, but this thread has been for some time.
I'm from a convict colony!Way off topic, I know, but this thread has been for some time.
G’day y’all! Get out yer booties, 'cause it’s gonna get COLD down there, now that Global Warming is coming back to the OLD “convict colony”!
I agree with you, that a substantial number of the people here are top-shelf, but you know the old saw “one bad apple…”? I’m just trying to shed light on a few brown spots.
And to sound the alarm of the impending demise of Mr. Budworth’s complete dream, if it’s a social club they now wanna be.
The “real” “Guilds” (or “Guild-like Organizations” … a rose by any other name…) which provide stability & guidance for the other crafts (masonry, blacksmithing/welding, carpentry, surveying, weaving – to name 5 with which I have personal experience) probably had these problems too, but I’m pretty sure they didn’t air their petty social “issues” in public. And I’m absolutely sure they didn’t ambush their new members like this!!
Ah, but PABPRES has it oh, so right: “So what, who cares!” Right? It’s not like the Boy Scouts have a “Knotting Merit Badge”, do they? Nor do sailors (in the Colonies, anyway) give much more than a passing nod to a knottyer, after they’ve sailed off with their work. So why should I care? Why should Domagoj Nola (or anyone else) come here for help?
Why?? Because WE care, d a m m i t, and we want to see Mr. Budworth’s complete idea succeed!! Right? Or is it just me? As all these other crafts have their “Guilds” (though some are called by different names), why can’t we?? Well, why isn’t ours as evolved as theirs? Maybe it’s because the actual knots themselves are less important to some than the words used or the unpronounceable names or whether or not their egos have been adequately stroked…
But this is all very embarrassing and there are knots to tie, so “Peace, I’m outie”!! If you’re ever in the Lower-Eastern colonies, you’ll have a place to stay, if only in my barn!! Seriously, hospitality is hardly a measure of the value of a social club (much less a craft guild)!! It’s de rigeur “down here”. Come on over, we’ll toss the froth off a couple & I’ll show you.
Yep like slip jig said. there was a really big misunderstanding here.